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	<title>Comments on: The problem with taking seed money from big VCs</title>
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		<title>By: Revisited: big VCs investing in seed rounds - Chris Dixon</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-2/#comment-18696</link>
		<dc:creator>Revisited: big VCs investing in seed rounds - Chris Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for seed-stage companies to take small investments from large VCs. (I blogged about the issue here, here, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Once you take money, the clock starts ticking - Chris Dixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Once you take money, the clock starts ticking - Chris Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (despite the fact that the company made pretty good progress on the business) creating a massive signaling [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-2/#comment-17329</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What are the best materials, online or otherwise, to use to explain the economics of startup financings (and the effect of [dis-]alignment of interests) to a class of law students?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Startup financing is a really broad category. Critical at the earliest stages is understanding whether or not there&#039;s an intent to seek equity financing - at all. Many &quot;lifestyle&quot; startups work just fine from bootstrap to revenue and exit (not neces...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What are the best materials, online or otherwise, to use to explain the economics of startup financings (and the effect of [dis-]alignment of interests) to a class of law students?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Startup financing is a really broad category. Critical at the earliest stages is understanding whether or not there&#8217;s an intent to seek equity financing &#8211; at all. Many &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; startups work just fine from bootstrap to revenue and exit (not neces&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Large VC&#8217;s as Seed Investors &#8211; Friend or Foe? &#8211; AGILEVC</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-2/#comment-17112</link>
		<dc:creator>Large VC&#8217;s as Seed Investors &#8211; Friend or Foe? &#8211; AGILEVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ink has been spilled on the pros and cons of taking seed stage investment from larger VC funds.  Chris Dixon and Fred Wilson have their viewpoints, more recently Mark Suster and Brad Feld added their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 10 Seed Money Sites</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-2/#comment-17051</link>
		<dc:creator>10 Seed Money Sites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The problem with taking seed money from big VCs - Chris DixonAug 14, 2009 Six months prior, he had raised seed money ( [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 6 Seed Money Sites</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-2/#comment-17031</link>
		<dc:creator>6 Seed Money Sites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The problem with taking seed money from big VCs - Chris DixonAug 14, 2009 Six months prior, he had raised seed money (No tags for this post.  Posted in Counseling [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lean Entrepreneurship is Undermining the U.S. Economy – The 60% Challenge &#124; Flashpoint</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-16312</link>
		<dc:creator>Lean Entrepreneurship is Undermining the U.S. Economy – The 60% Challenge &#124; Flashpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] funds have reacted in different ways, setting up captive seed funds (which are turning out to be problematic) and/or putting more money to work in expensive, later-stage opportunities, like Kleiner Perkins’ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] funds have reacted in different ways, setting up captive seed funds (which are turning out to be problematic) and/or putting more money to work in expensive, later-stage opportunities, like Kleiner Perkins’ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: THE VC GAME &#124; HBBLE</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-15668</link>
		<dc:creator>THE VC GAME &#124; HBBLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and run in the mighty venture capital world. Former Bessemer VC Chris Dixon from Founder Collective warns startups from taking seed money from a large VC and 37 Signals suggest not to take outside money [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lean Entrepreneurship is Undermining the U.S. Economy – The 60% Challenge &#171; startupengineering</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-15630</link>
		<dc:creator>Lean Entrepreneurship is Undermining the U.S. Economy – The 60% Challenge &#171; startupengineering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] funds have reacted in different ways, setting up captive seed funds (which are turning out to be problematic) and/or putting more money to work in expensive, later-stage opportunities, like Kleiner Perkins’ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Signaling is overblown. &#124; infinite to venture</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-14655</link>
		<dc:creator>Signaling is overblown. &#124; infinite to venture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Don’t take seed money from big VCs – It doesn’t matter if the big VC invests under a different name or merely provides space and mentoring.  If a big VC has any involvement with your company at the seed stage, their posture toward the next round has such strong signaling power that they can kill you and/or control the pricing of the round.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Don’t take seed money from big VCs – It doesn’t matter if the big VC invests under a different name or merely provides space and mentoring.  If a big VC has any involvement with your company at the seed stage, their posture toward the next round has such strong signaling power that they can kill you and/or control the pricing of the round.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Dixon&#8217;s Notes on Seed Raising &#171; &#34;Weston&#039;s Blog&#34;</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-14367</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Dixon&#8217;s Notes on Seed Raising &#171; &#34;Weston&#039;s Blog&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VCs can be less valuation sensitive and have deep pockets but are sometimes buying options so come with some risks (more). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] VCs can be less valuation sensitive and have deep pockets but are sometimes buying options so come with some risks (more). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cdixon.org &#8211; chris dixon&#039;s blog / Notes on raising seed financing</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-14349</link>
		<dc:creator>cdixon.org &#8211; chris dixon&#039;s blog / Notes on raising seed financing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VCs can be less valuation sensitive and have deep pockets but are sometimes buying options so come with some risks (more). [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Seed money &#124; Bertobeywedding</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-14293</link>
		<dc:creator>Seed money &#124; Bertobeywedding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 06:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cdixon.org &#8211; chris dixon&#8217;s blog / The problem with taking seedI recently met an entrepreneur who was raising money for his startup. &#160;Six months prior, he had raised seed money (&lt;$1M) from one of the increasingly popular seed programs big venture firms are offering (big venture firms = roughly $100M fund and larger). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cdixon.org &#8211; chris dixon&#8217;s blog / The problem with taking seedI recently met an entrepreneur who was raising money for his startup. &#160;Six months prior, he had raised seed money (&lt;$1M) from one of the increasingly popular seed programs big venture firms are offering (big venture firms = roughly $100M fund and larger). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paramendra</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-13410</link>
		<dc:creator>paramendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I sometimes compete with big VCs...&quot; You should. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I sometimes compete with big VCs&#8230;&#8221; You should.</p>
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		<title>By: How Hollywood Resembles Silicon Valley &#124; Jennifer 8. Lee</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-12168</link>
		<dc:creator>How Hollywood Resembles Silicon Valley &#124; Jennifer 8. Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] money with­out giv­ing up control. Plus, many of these small star­tups have been warned, by folks like Chris Dixon, to avoid ven­ture cap­i­tal financ­ing because of the leash (trans­formable to a noose) that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] money with­out giv­ing up control. Plus, many of these small star­tups have been warned, by folks like Chris Dixon, to avoid ven­ture cap­i­tal financ­ing because of the leash (trans­formable to a noose) that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-12004</link>
		<dc:creator>Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Who are the best angel investors in Europe?...&lt;/strong&gt;

At the top of the list are: - Stefan Glaenzer, ex-QXL/ricardo.de/Last.fm, Eileen Burbridge, ex-Skype &amp; Robert Dighero, ex-QXL (investing as a group) - Robin Klein, now Seed Index, formerly TAG - Klaus Hommels, investor in Spotify, Skype, etc, now runni...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Who are the best angel investors in Europe?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>At the top of the list are: &#8211; Stefan Glaenzer, ex-QXL/ricardo.de/Last.fm, Eileen Burbridge, ex-Skype &amp; Robert Dighero, ex-QXL (investing as a group) &#8211; Robin Klein, now Seed Index, formerly TAG &#8211; Klaus Hommels, investor in Spotify, Skype, etc, now runni&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Understanding a VC’s Seed Funding Policy is Critical &#171; MediaEngineer&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-9798</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding a VC’s Seed Funding Policy is Critical &#171; MediaEngineer&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think the issue was mostly framed initially by Chris Dixon in his article The Problem with Taking Seed Money from Big VCs.  VentureHacks laid out the debate in a truly awesome interview &amp; PowerPoint slides if you [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Understanding a VC’s Seed Funding Policy is Critical &#124;</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-9797</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding a VC’s Seed Funding Policy is Critical &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think the issue was mostly framed initially by Chris Dixon in his article The Problem with Taking Seed Money from Big VCs.  VentureHacks laid out the debate in a truly awesome interview &amp; PowerPoint slides if you [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Understanding a VC’s Seed Funding Policy is Critical &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-9796</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding a VC’s Seed Funding Policy is Critical &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think the issue was mostly framed initially by Chris Dixon in his article The Problem with Taking Seed Money from Big VCs.  VentureHacks laid out the debate in a truly awesome interview &amp; PowerPoint slides if you really [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Binomial Revenue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why It&#8217;s Best To Create More Value For Others Than Yourself</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-9355</link>
		<dc:creator>Binomial Revenue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why It&#8217;s Best To Create More Value For Others Than Yourself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; a statement that epitomizes the passive, extractor mindset. The problem with&#160;VC seed programs is they&#160;not only fail to enlarge the pie, they actually shrink it by making otherwise fundable [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &ndash; a statement that epitomizes the passive, extractor mindset. The problem with&nbsp;VC seed programs is they&nbsp;not only fail to enlarge the pie, they actually shrink it by making otherwise fundable [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why It&#8217;s Best To Create More Value For Others Than Yourself &#124; SHOUTing GORIlla</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-9351</link>
		<dc:creator>Why It&#8217;s Best To Create More Value For Others Than Yourself &#124; SHOUTing GORIlla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; a statement that epitomizes the passive, extractor mindset. The problem with&#160;VC seed programs is they&#160;not only fail to enlarge the pie, they actually shrink it by making otherwise fundable [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Question Every Entrepreneur and Investor Should Consider &#124; Startups</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-9339</link>
		<dc:creator>A Question Every Entrepreneur and Investor Should Consider &#124; Startups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] those deals&#8221; - a statement that epitomizes the passive, extractor mindset. The problem with VC seed programs is they not only fail to enlarge the pie, they actually shrink it by making otherwise fundable [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those deals&#8221; &#8211; a statement that epitomizes the passive, extractor mindset. The problem with VC seed programs is they not only fail to enlarge the pie, they actually shrink it by making otherwise fundable [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Builders and extractors cdixon.org &#8211; chris dixon&#39;s blog</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-9334</link>
		<dc:creator>Builders and extractors cdixon.org &#8211; chris dixon&#39;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 03:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] deals&#8221; &#8211; a statement that epitomizes the passive, extractor mindset. The problem with VC seed programs is they not only fail to enlarge the pie, they actually shrink it by making otherwise fundable [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VCs in seed clothing: Chris Dixon, Mark Suster, and Naval Ravikant interviewed &#45; Venture Hacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>VCs in seed clothing: Chris Dixon, Mark Suster, and Naval Ravikant interviewed &#45; Venture Hacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 17:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chris Dixon: The problem with taking seed money from big VCs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Understanding the Risks of VC Signaling &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-7631</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding the Risks of VC Signaling &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 02:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] important point about fund size.” &#160;He’s specifically referring to his point of view that entrepreneurs shouldn’t take seed money from “big VC’s” (he defines them as &gt; $100 million). &#160;It actually wasn’t the point of my post – my [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hecker Lawyer Headlines &#187; The importance of investor signaling in venture pricing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>The importance of investor signaling in venture pricing &#124; eric hill</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Chris,

Thanks for the great blog and the valuable information you provide to all the entrepreneurs without asking for anything back. 

How can I find a mentor like you before starting to send my Business plan to all the VCs and BAs? If someone doesn&#039;t have a friend with your kind of know how, and at the same time doesn&#039;t feel ready to contact investors how can he or she fill that gap? 

Thanks a lot!

Sebastian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Chris,</p>
<p>Thanks for the great blog and the valuable information you provide to all the entrepreneurs without asking for anything back. </p>
<p>How can I find a mentor like you before starting to send my Business plan to all the VCs and BAs? If someone doesn&#8217;t have a friend with your kind of know how, and at the same time doesn&#8217;t feel ready to contact investors how can he or she fill that gap? </p>
<p>Thanks a lot!</p>
<p>Sebastian</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Startup Atlanta, Lance LeMay. Lance LeMay said: Good post...just getting to it...The problem with taking seed money from big VCs cdixon.org – chris dixon&#039;s blog http://bit.ly/8uayOn [...]</description>
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		<title>By: chris dixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, we will answer all the emails in time.  just really behind right now.</description>
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		<title>By: steven wong</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-4869</link>
		<dc:creator>steven wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I agree Founder Collective sounds like a great thing BUT why don&#039;t you answer emails? You do not have a number on your site so there is nowhere to call and I have emailed you regarding my business idea, and I have heard from friends who have emailed you - none of us have even received an answer.  Come on, even if you do not like the business idea, isn&#039;t it curteous to at least answer email?
After all - you do ASK people to contact you with their business ideas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I agree Founder Collective sounds like a great thing BUT why don&#8217;t you answer emails? You do not have a number on your site so there is nowhere to call and I have emailed you regarding my business idea, and I have heard from friends who have emailed you &#8211; none of us have even received an answer.  Come on, even if you do not like the business idea, isn&#8217;t it curteous to at least answer email?<br />
After all &#8211; you do ASK people to contact you with their business ideas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Enrique</title>
		<link>http://cdixon.org/2009/08/14/the-problem-with-taking-seed-money-from-big-vcs/comment-page-1/#comment-4851</link>
		<dc:creator>Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
Great post and truly admire your foundercollective.com, it was long-overdue.   Some quick questions: 

a) does a dedicated seed-fund charge management fees to its investors? if not, how does the fund cover opex? For example, in the VC model, GPS charge management fees to LPs and get paid carried interest;
b) How and when would &quot;seed-lps&quot; get paid?  
c) What kind of support can you offer entrepreneurs, beyond coaching/advising/contacts?  
d) What would the typical ownership stake be for a seed investor (I know that y-combinator takes a very small stake for a very^5 small investment); and 
e) how many companies you need to invest in to start generating portfolio effects?

Would love to get your take on these, if you have time of course.

Thanks!
Enrique
617-780-5465</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
Great post and truly admire your foundercollective.com, it was long-overdue.   Some quick questions: </p>
<p>a) does a dedicated seed-fund charge management fees to its investors? if not, how does the fund cover opex? For example, in the VC model, GPS charge management fees to LPs and get paid carried interest;<br />
b) How and when would &#8220;seed-lps&#8221; get paid?<br />
c) What kind of support can you offer entrepreneurs, beyond coaching/advising/contacts?<br />
d) What would the typical ownership stake be for a seed investor (I know that y-combinator takes a very small stake for a very^5 small investment); and<br />
e) how many companies you need to invest in to start generating portfolio effects?</p>
<p>Would love to get your take on these, if you have time of course.</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Enrique<br />
617-780-5465</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Gillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect your ability to turn hard to understand VC concepts into everyday speech</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Web Startup Group, wawanz and Brent Cappello, Ahad Bokhari. Ahad Bokhari said: The Problem With Taking Seed Money From Big VCs http://j.mp/2Mh9fn [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>The Most Important Question To Ask Before Taking Seed Money&#160;&#124;&#160;Eduardo Gonzalez Loumiet</dc:creator>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was an early cynic.  I told entrepreneurs that it was a bit of a Faustian bargain.  If the large VC doesn&#8217;t agree to do your A round then you&#8217;re in a bit of trouble.  Why?  Because as a potential A round investor I&#8217;m thinking to myself, &#8220;if the large VC seed investor has been in the company for 9 months and isn&#8217;t leading the round then something must be wrong.  Surely they have more information than I do.&#8221;  And I think this line of thinking has started to become conventional wisdom as outlined in Chris Dixon&#8217;s excellent blog post saying that you need to be careful raising seed money from a large VC fund. [...]</description>
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		<description>[...] I was an early cynic.&#160; I told entrepreneurs that it was a bit of a Faustian bargain.&#160; If the large VC doesn’t agree to do your A round then you’re in a bit of trouble.&#160; Why?&#160; Because as a potential A round investor I’m thinking to myself, “if the large VC seed investor has been in the company for 9 months and isn’t leading the round then something must be wrong.&#160; Surely they have more information than I do.”&#160; And I think this line of thinking has started to become conventional wisdom as outlined in Chris Dixon’s excellent blog post saying that you need to be careful raising seed money from a large VC fund. [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Arron Andersen Kalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - I agree that it is important to understand what you are signing up for first. I think that this was the biggest mistake for me during TechStars. In 2007 I came into the program viewing it primarily as a mentorship and educational opportunity. However, I emerged realizing that in certain respects it was a relatively cut-throat traditional business environment (which offered its own educational value). For example, we had individual &quot;mentors&quot; who would just as soon hire our team apart for their own VC backed projects as actually mentor our business. 

Please Note: I would still recommend that anyone given the opportunity to participate in TechStars seriously consider doing so -- just know what you are getting into.

Furthermore, as an entrepreneur, I think it is important to realize that there are several different investment strategies, which you can choose to align yourself with. For instance, the strategy that Basil discusses in his book is not about &quot;swinging for the fences&quot; so much as winning the game by consistently hitting singles and doubles. It all depends on your goal as an entrepreneur.

Also, I ultimately agree that VCs are generally a good thing for entrepreneurs and society at large. But again, culture needs (and will) evolve with the model -- especially as business continues to become more transparent via social media. 

Last but not least, I was mistaken, the TechStars forum is publicly viewable, you just have to be a member to post: http://startup.techstars.org/discussion/14/The-Problem-With-Taking-Seed-Money-From-Big-VCs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; I agree that it is important to understand what you are signing up for first. I think that this was the biggest mistake for me during TechStars. In 2007 I came into the program viewing it primarily as a mentorship and educational opportunity. However, I emerged realizing that in certain respects it was a relatively cut-throat traditional business environment (which offered its own educational value). For example, we had individual &#8220;mentors&#8221; who would just as soon hire our team apart for their own VC backed projects as actually mentor our business. </p>
<p>Please Note: I would still recommend that anyone given the opportunity to participate in TechStars seriously consider doing so &#8212; just know what you are getting into.</p>
<p>Furthermore, as an entrepreneur, I think it is important to realize that there are several different investment strategies, which you can choose to align yourself with. For instance, the strategy that Basil discusses in his book is not about &#8220;swinging for the fences&#8221; so much as winning the game by consistently hitting singles and doubles. It all depends on your goal as an entrepreneur.</p>
<p>Also, I ultimately agree that VCs are generally a good thing for entrepreneurs and society at large. But again, culture needs (and will) evolve with the model &#8212; especially as business continues to become more transparent via social media. </p>
<p>Last but not least, I was mistaken, the TechStars forum is publicly viewable, you just have to be a member to post: <a href="http://startup.techstars.org/discussion/14/The-Problem-With-Taking-Seed-Money-From-Big-VCs" rel="nofollow">http://startup.techstars.org/discussion/14/The-Problem-With-Taking-Seed-Money-From-Big-VCs</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arron- very interesting.  I&#039;d never thought about the signaling value in seed programs.  I guess that&#039;s why Y-combinator is smart to invest equally in all of them.  (Although now that Sequoia invested in Y-combinator will there be a &quot;Sequoia effect&quot; since presumably they&#039;ll get first dibs on every company?).

I think VCs are generally a good thing for entrepreneurs and society at large, although there are certainly abuses (but those pale in comparison to other areas of finance such as later stage private equity and hedge funds).  As an entrepreneur you just need to know what you are getting in for, including the fact that you now have to &quot;swing for the fences.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arron- very interesting.  I&#8217;d never thought about the signaling value in seed programs.  I guess that&#8217;s why Y-combinator is smart to invest equally in all of them.  (Although now that Sequoia invested in Y-combinator will there be a &#8220;Sequoia effect&#8221; since presumably they&#8217;ll get first dibs on every company?).</p>
<p>I think VCs are generally a good thing for entrepreneurs and society at large, although there are certainly abuses (but those pale in comparison to other areas of finance such as later stage private equity and hedge funds).  As an entrepreneur you just need to know what you are getting in for, including the fact that you now have to &#8220;swing for the fences.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Arron Andersen Kalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, there is a great comment thread happening on a TechStars&#039; forum re: your post. Unfortunately, it is not publicly available. Thus I have posted a slightly modified version of my original comment below:

I participated in TechStars in 2007. The first question afterward from nearly every investor was: &quot;is Brad investing?&quot; (Brad Feld is a VC and co-founder of TechStars) However, I also believe that this &quot;negative signal&quot; (or &quot;Brad effect&quot;) created by VCs&#039; involvement in seed stage mentor-driven investment programs (such as TechStars) is only half of the story.

Basil Peters, a member of the Bellingham Angel Group, wrote a great book titled Early Exits, Exit Strategies for Entrepreneurs &amp; Angel Investors (But Maybe Not Venture Capitalists). I highly recommend that every startup founder READ THIS BOOK BEFORE TAKING A CENT OF FINANCING. Basil puts forth that the current VC model is broken. He cites shorter innovation cycles &amp; the fact that tech startups do not require the intense amount of capital that they once did as two reasons that the old system is breaking down. Furthermore, Basil identifies an inherit conflict of interest between VCs and startup founders; stating that VCs have a tendency to block exits that would be completely acceptable to the founders &amp; angel investors in the hopes of &quot;hitting it out of the park&quot;. Unfortunately, although this strategy works out in the end for the VC, several viable business are effectively bled to death in the process.

To a certain extent, it could be postulated that mentor-driven seed stage investment programs are the VC model&#039;s adapted response to shorter innovation cycles &amp; the requirement for less cash. Again, as a strategy, this makes very good business sense. However, there is perhaps an even more disingenuous conflict of interest that occurs within the adapted model when such a business is outwardly constructed as a mentorship. I say this, because the second you label it as such, it inherently possesses a grossly different mandate, which IMHO can&#039;t socially afford the traditionally accepted &quot;trail of blood&quot;. In other words the culture needs to evolve with the model.

Having stated this, I would like to also say that my experience participating in TechStars was overwhelmingly positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, there is a great comment thread happening on a TechStars&#8217; forum re: your post. Unfortunately, it is not publicly available. Thus I have posted a slightly modified version of my original comment below:</p>
<p>I participated in TechStars in 2007. The first question afterward from nearly every investor was: &#8220;is Brad investing?&#8221; (Brad Feld is a VC and co-founder of TechStars) However, I also believe that this &#8220;negative signal&#8221; (or &#8220;Brad effect&#8221;) created by VCs&#8217; involvement in seed stage mentor-driven investment programs (such as TechStars) is only half of the story.</p>
<p>Basil Peters, a member of the Bellingham Angel Group, wrote a great book titled Early Exits, Exit Strategies for Entrepreneurs &amp; Angel Investors (But Maybe Not Venture Capitalists). I highly recommend that every startup founder READ THIS BOOK BEFORE TAKING A CENT OF FINANCING. Basil puts forth that the current VC model is broken. He cites shorter innovation cycles &amp; the fact that tech startups do not require the intense amount of capital that they once did as two reasons that the old system is breaking down. Furthermore, Basil identifies an inherit conflict of interest between VCs and startup founders; stating that VCs have a tendency to block exits that would be completely acceptable to the founders &amp; angel investors in the hopes of &#8220;hitting it out of the park&#8221;. Unfortunately, although this strategy works out in the end for the VC, several viable business are effectively bled to death in the process.</p>
<p>To a certain extent, it could be postulated that mentor-driven seed stage investment programs are the VC model&#8217;s adapted response to shorter innovation cycles &amp; the requirement for less cash. Again, as a strategy, this makes very good business sense. However, there is perhaps an even more disingenuous conflict of interest that occurs within the adapted model when such a business is outwardly constructed as a mentorship. I say this, because the second you label it as such, it inherently possesses a grossly different mandate, which IMHO can&#8217;t socially afford the traditionally accepted &#8220;trail of blood&#8221;. In other words the culture needs to evolve with the model.</p>
<p>Having stated this, I would like to also say that my experience participating in TechStars was overwhelmingly positive.</p>
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		<title>By: sameer guglani</title>
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		<dc:creator>sameer guglani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chris: I agree with your comment about taking money from non-VC sources. Which is self, friends, family and fools</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Knisley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Knisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole VC concept and practice is debatable. I&#039;ve personally seen three different businesses run into the ground and destroyed as a direct result of VC domination of the companies. As a result, I&#039;m extremely nervous about borrowing *any* money for *any* business ideas at all; it&#039;s a risky proposition. It&#039;s refreshing to read Chris&#039; thoughts and insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole VC concept and practice is debatable. I&#8217;ve personally seen three different businesses run into the ground and destroyed as a direct result of VC domination of the companies. As a result, I&#8217;m extremely nervous about borrowing *any* money for *any* business ideas at all; it&#8217;s a risky proposition. It&#8217;s refreshing to read Chris&#8217; thoughts and insights.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-08-15 &#171; Blarney Fellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-08-15 &#171; Blarney Fellow</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Peter Yared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Yared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually these types of deals are structured that you have to get _another_ VC to lead and price the A round, and the seed VC has the right of first refusal to 50% of the round, and converts their seed money at a 20% discount + interest towards that 50%.  But overall I agree, only do this kind of deal with firms you have known for a long time and trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually these types of deals are structured that you have to get _another_ VC to lead and price the A round, and the seed VC has the right of first refusal to 50% of the round, and converts their seed money at a 20% discount + interest towards that 50%.  But overall I agree, only do this kind of deal with firms you have known for a long time and trust.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great comments.

Jeff - Agree that 2 VCs make the situation a little bit better.  You get some game theory working to your favor.  I would add that it&#039;s important that the VCs be of somewhat equal stature (and equal investment amounts, but they usually insist on that).  If you have tier 2 firm co-investing with Sequoia and Sequoia doesn&#039;t follow on, it&#039;ll look bad.

In terms of pre-negotiating the Series A that is triggered with milestones, that sounds a lot like tranching, which I am against for a lot of reasons (it deserves a whole blog post...), but mainly at the early stages the direction often changes and so fixing the milestones can encourage the entrepreneur to manage to the investors instead of what&#039;s best for the business.  

That said, agree that every startup should have milestones, regardless of financing conditions - it&#039;s just good business practice.

Sameer - I think there are some cases where you do in fact need capital at the very beginning.  It&#039;s true that many internet businesses today can be bootstrapped, but other kinds of startups including more tech heavy internet/software, or for sure hardware, biotech, etc might be better off taking some (non-VC) seed money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great comments.</p>
<p>Jeff &#8211; Agree that 2 VCs make the situation a little bit better.  You get some game theory working to your favor.  I would add that it&#8217;s important that the VCs be of somewhat equal stature (and equal investment amounts, but they usually insist on that).  If you have tier 2 firm co-investing with Sequoia and Sequoia doesn&#8217;t follow on, it&#8217;ll look bad.</p>
<p>In terms of pre-negotiating the Series A that is triggered with milestones, that sounds a lot like tranching, which I am against for a lot of reasons (it deserves a whole blog post&#8230;), but mainly at the early stages the direction often changes and so fixing the milestones can encourage the entrepreneur to manage to the investors instead of what&#8217;s best for the business.  </p>
<p>That said, agree that every startup should have milestones, regardless of financing conditions &#8211; it&#8217;s just good business practice.</p>
<p>Sameer &#8211; I think there are some cases where you do in fact need capital at the very beginning.  It&#8217;s true that many internet businesses today can be bootstrapped, but other kinds of startups including more tech heavy internet/software, or for sure hardware, biotech, etc might be better off taking some (non-VC) seed money.</p>
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		<title>By: Prakash S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prakash S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

How would you ideally fund your startup?</description>
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<p>How would you ideally fund your startup?</p>
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