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]]> By: freerobby http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-5796 freerobby Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:07:07 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-5796 SPAM is an interesting case. I agree that it has mostly been mitigated as far as email is concerned, but it still plagues blogs and budding social web sites. Services like Akismet and TypePad provide some relief, but what they block feels marginal compared to what gets through. Ryan Bates' Railscasts blog has tutorials for setting up those services as well as things like Captcha. But despite using these tools on his own site, he often tweets about how much spam still finds its way through to his comments section.<br><br>I work at <a href="http://oneforty.com" rel="nofollow">oneforty.com</a>, and we have seen the problem first hand. Lots of "people" have submitted spam-like reviews of Twitter apps along these lines:<br>1) The review contains nothing except a link to the author's web site.<br>2) "If you like this app you will love <some other app/url>"<br>3) "Get cheap viagra cialis here", etc.<br><br>Some of these -- notably #2 -- are difficult to detect. Nothing seems to catch them. But what is frustrating is that our tests with Akismet and TypePad almost always fail with #1, and usually fail with #3! In fact the comment "cheap viagra <a href="http://cheapviagra.com%22" rel="nofollow">http://cheapviagra.com"</a> did not get caught by Akismet in our tests (interestingly, it did work when we omitted the URL). We have a home-brewed solution that helps with #1 and #3, but it's not perfect. And more importantly, we want to spend our time building our web site, not anti-spam tools.<br><br>There's a final category that we have to deal with, which we call "crap content." This consists of the useless and unhelpful submissions we receive that don't quite fall under the "spam" umbrella. For instance, we have received hundreds of reviews that consist of a single word: "wow!!!", "nice", "hi", "whoa". Even more along the lines of "cool app" or "I like it." Even if this is not spam by definition, it reflects very poorly on us if a user comes to our site and this is what he or she sees in the reviews section.<br><br>So if the security industry is experiencing a Pax Romana of sorts, perhaps they could lend their talents to this area. If they build it, we'll gladly buy it. :-) SPAM is an interesting case. I agree that it has mostly been mitigated as far as email is concerned, but it still plagues blogs and budding social web sites. Services like Akismet and TypePad provide some relief, but what they block feels marginal compared to what gets through. Ryan Bates' Railscasts blog has tutorials for setting up those services as well as things like Captcha. But despite using these tools on his own site, he often tweets about how much spam still finds its way through to his comments section.

I work at oneforty.com, and we have seen the problem first hand. Lots of “people” have submitted spam-like reviews of Twitter apps along these lines:
1) The review contains nothing except a link to the author's web site.
2) “If you like this app you will love <some other app/url>”
3) “Get cheap viagra cialis here”, etc.

Some of these — notably #2 — are difficult to detect. Nothing seems to catch them. But what is frustrating is that our tests with Akismet and TypePad almost always fail with #1, and usually fail with #3! In fact the comment “cheap viagra http://cheapviagra.com“ did not get caught by Akismet in our tests (interestingly, it did work when we omitted the URL). We have a home-brewed solution that helps with #1 and #3, but it's not perfect. And more importantly, we want to spend our time building our web site, not anti-spam tools.

There's a final category that we have to deal with, which we call “crap content.” This consists of the useless and unhelpful submissions we receive that don't quite fall under the “spam” umbrella. For instance, we have received hundreds of reviews that consist of a single word: “wow!!!”, “nice”, “hi”, “whoa”. Even more along the lines of “cool app” or “I like it.” Even if this is not spam by definition, it reflects very poorly on us if a user comes to our site and this is what he or she sees in the reviews section.

So if the security industry is experiencing a Pax Romana of sorts, perhaps they could lend their talents to this area. If they build it, we'll gladly buy it. :-)

]]> By: freerobby http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-4744 freerobby Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:07:07 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-4744 SPAM is an interesting case. I agree that it has mostly been mitigated as far as email is concerned, but it still plagues blogs and budding social web sites. Services like Akismet and TypePad provide some relief, but what they block feels marginal compared to what gets through. Ryan Bates' Railscasts blog has tutorials for setting up those services as well as things like Captcha. But despite using these tools on his own site, he often tweets about how much spam still finds its way through to his comments section.<br><br>I work at <a href="http://oneforty.com" rel="nofollow">oneforty.com</a>, and we have seen the problem first hand. Lots of "people" have submitted spam-like reviews of Twitter apps along these lines:<br>1) The review contains nothing except a link to the author's web site.<br>2) "If you like this app you will love <some other app/url>"<br>3) "Get cheap viagra cialis here", etc.<br><br>Some of these -- notably #2 -- are difficult to detect. Nothing seems to catch them. But what is frustrating is that our tests with Akismet and TypePad almost always fail with #1, and usually fail with #3! In fact the comment "cheap viagra <a href="http://cheapviagra.com%22" rel="nofollow">http://cheapviagra.com"</a> did not get caught by Akismet in our tests (interestingly, it did work when we omitted the URL). We have a home-brewed solution that helps with #1 and #3, but it's not perfect. And more importantly, we want to spend our time building our web site, not anti-spam tools.<br><br>There's a final category that we have to deal with, which we call "crap content." This consists of the useless and unhelpful submissions we receive that don't quite fall under the "spam" umbrella. For instance, we have received hundreds of reviews that consist of a single word: "wow!!!", "nice", "hi", "whoa". Even more along the lines of "cool app" or "I like it." Even if this is not spam by definition, it reflects very poorly on us if a user comes to our site and this is what he or she sees in the reviews section.<br><br>So if the security industry is experiencing a Pax Romana of sorts, perhaps they could lend their talents to this area. If they build it, we'll gladly buy it. :-) SPAM is an interesting case. I agree that it has mostly been mitigated as far as email is concerned, but it still plagues blogs and budding social web sites. Services like Akismet and TypePad provide some relief, but what they block feels marginal compared to what gets through. Ryan Bates' Railscasts blog has tutorials for setting up those services as well as things like Captcha. But despite using these tools on his own site, he often tweets about how much spam still finds its way through to his comments section.

I work at oneforty.com, and we have seen the problem first hand. Lots of “people” have submitted spam-like reviews of Twitter apps along these lines:
1) The review contains nothing except a link to the author's web site.
2) “If you like this app you will love <some other app/url>”
3) “Get cheap viagra cialis here”, etc.

Some of these — notably #2 — are difficult to detect. Nothing seems to catch them. But what is frustrating is that our tests with Akismet and TypePad almost always fail with #1, and usually fail with #3! In fact the comment “cheap viagra http://cheapviagra.com“ did not get caught by Akismet in our tests (interestingly, it did work when we omitted the URL). We have a home-brewed solution that helps with #1 and #3, but it's not perfect. And more importantly, we want to spend our time building our web site, not anti-spam tools.

There's a final category that we have to deal with, which we call “crap content.” This consists of the useless and unhelpful submissions we receive that don't quite fall under the “spam” umbrella. For instance, we have received hundreds of reviews that consist of a single word: “wow!!!”, “nice”, “hi”, “whoa”. Even more along the lines of “cool app” or “I like it.” Even if this is not spam by definition, it reflects very poorly on us if a user comes to our site and this is what he or she sees in the reviews section.

So if the security industry is experiencing a Pax Romana of sorts, perhaps they could lend their talents to this area. If they build it, we'll gladly buy it. :-)

]]> By: jeremystein http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-4633 jeremystein Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:49:31 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-4633 I meant to disclose above that I am biased because I am working on something<br>in this area.<br><br>I have experienced this first hand. There was a long period of time at<br>stocktwits where I was dedicated 50% of my day to spam. I meant to disclose above that I am biased because I am working on something
in this area.

I have experienced this first hand. There was a long period of time at
stocktwits where I was dedicated 50% of my day to spam.

]]> By: chris dixon http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-4618 chris dixon Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:40:14 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-4618 That's a good point. I've heard similar things from social media sites. That's a good point. I've heard similar things from social media sites.

]]> By: jeremystein http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-4617 jeremystein Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:26:13 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-4617 from what i can see, the threat has shifted from consumers to companies. every social media company deals with spam, abusive behavior, chargebacks, etc, on a daily basis. many of this does not trickle down to the user. imho, there is a larger opportunity to build moderation infrastructure to help companies deal with the human problem. from what i can see, the threat has shifted from consumers to companies. every social media company deals with spam, abusive behavior, chargebacks, etc, on a daily basis. many of this does not trickle down to the user. imho, there is a larger opportunity to build moderation infrastructure to help companies deal with the human problem.

]]> By: chris dixon http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-4615 chris dixon Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:45:51 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-4615 Definitely. Always tension between security and functionality. Definitely. Always tension between security and functionality.

]]> By: chris dixon http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-4616 chris dixon Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:45:30 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-4616 Didn't see it. I'm always skeptical of MSM coverage of computer security - at least in my experience it's almost always wrong. That said, I should see this episode before commenting on it :) Didn't see it. I'm always skeptical of MSM coverage of computer security – at least in my experience it's almost always wrong. That said, I should see this episode before commenting on it :)

]]> By: Dave Blanchard http://cdixon.org/2009/11/08/information-security-are-we-experiencing-a-pax-romana/comment-page-1/#comment-4613 Dave Blanchard Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:39:54 +0000 http://www.cdixon.org/?p=687#comment-4613 Not sure if you're seeing the 60 minutes tonight but it sounds like the gov't is certainly not experiencing Pax Romana. I don't keep up on this stuff, but I was surprised at some of the examples they shared (hackers staying in war systems for multiple days, Brazil going black, etc). Not sure if you're seeing the 60 minutes tonight but it sounds like the gov't is certainly not experiencing Pax Romana. I don't keep up on this stuff, but I was surprised at some of the examples they shared (hackers staying in war systems for multiple days, Brazil going black, etc).

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