Chris Dixon

The enterprise: buyers versus users

Why does most enterprise technology feel like it is a decade behind consumer technology? For the same reason our health care system is broken. The “user” isn’t the same person as the “buyer”. In enterprise software the user is generally a non-IT person but the buyer is usually, at least in part, the IT department.* (In healthcare the “user” is the patient and the “buyer” is the doctor or insurance company).

SAP bought SuccessFactors today, in a big win for “cloud” based enterprise software. The cloud might sound like a buzzword but is in fact a vastly superior architecture, not because it makes installation and updates easier (although that’s good too), but because it starts to remove IT from the purchasing process, meaning the user and the buyer are, increasingly, the same person.

* A corollary to this is that IT-related enterprise software, i.e. infrastructure, is generally pretty good.

  • Anonymous

    Just saw your tweet ;) Still working on a Sat. night over here.

    • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

      ok just checking in to make sure there is life out there!

    • http://twitter.com/jm90403 Josh Miller

      It’ll be interesting to see if Coursekit can overcome this barrier. It’s a beautifully engineered product, which students will undoubtedly prefer, but Blackboard gets away with a terrible UI because they integrate well with college legacy systems (e.g. registrar, transcript office, etc.)

      • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

        Coursekit is a great example of “consumerization of the enterprise” (disclosure: Founder Collective is an investor)

        • http://twitter.com/jm90403 Josh Miller

          Coursekit’s messaging should target preceptors/TAs not professors (although I guess “instructor” is open-ended). TAs are younger and “get” the Internet, and could really use the student-generated content to help their discussion sections run more smoothly.

          • Anonymous

            Totally agree with this. TAs are by far the more tech savvy. It’d be interesting to allow students to self organize as a class without the professor — notes/slides/etc. Already some of my design classes have used facebook groups to help disseminate inspiration concepts/links/articles related to class.

            Right now, that’s not an option. 

  • Anonymous

    Chris,

    What you mention above is very much correct.

    my take is, in enterprise product the entrepreneur can seldom boot-strap. the enterprise sales process is generally much longer (tedious) than selling a consumer product. So, the ratio of effort (investment) is sales is much higher than in the consumer facing products. The above means that much of the effort is directed towards the sales cycle rather than innovation. 

    having done entreprise product startup and selling it to some of the biggest fortune 500 companies. we still failed because we did’nt have the sales muscle. 


    Deboprio

    • Anonymous

      Totally agree with this.

    • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

      Totally agree that enterprise has traditionally required a lot more sales, hence time and capital.  I would argue that one interesting trend (enabled partly by cloud architectures) is a more “trickle up” approach where some business people start using something and then suddenly the organization realizes they need a site license.  This is what Kevin Ryan told me about MongoDB for example when I interviewed him on TechCrunch Founder Stories and is what I’ve heard about e.g. MySql.

      My hope is that this trend will continue and soon enterprise “sales” will be less about selling (1 to 1) and more about marketing (1 to many). 

      • http://twitter.com/kfalter Kelsey Falter

        Talked to a few people from Salesforce. This is exactly what they found to be effective. 

        Groups in enterprise went “rogue” and started using it with small teams. Then Salesforce was able to approach a company after x number of groups were using it to convert them to a more economical bulk price package.

        • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

          Yeah that’s what I’ve heard about “consumerized” enterprise software like Yammer and Mongo.

        • http://twitter.com/alexbarron Alexander Barron

          It’s not just enterprise cloud

          • Anonymous

            I think anything that offers bulk/larger package pricing falls into it.

      • https://taskera.com Deboprio Ghosh

        Absolutely. we learnt hard lesson trying to do enterprise sales with bootstrapping budget, we failed. what you told is exactly what we learnt the hard way (6years) and is the way we are going with our new offering. another example of what you just told can be yammer.

        so the model is, you offer it go -behind- the- end -users. if they like they will adopt and take it to the enterprise.

        • http://twitter.com/kfalter Kelsey Falter

          Great learnings I’m guessing! I am starting a company that allows for real time critiques of creative content, but instead of targeting enterprise players, I’m looking at design students and freelancers hoping that those students who graduate within the year will be so hooked on the product that when they enter agency life, there will be a rogue voice in the crowd that there is a better way.

          I think the key aspect to advancing enterprise software is entry level pricing tiers that can be expensed or small portion of department budget. Looking at salesforce/yammer/hipchat

          • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

            I’m not sure how Adobe started, but certainly a big part of their defensibility now is that every design student is trained on their software.

            • http://twitter.com/kfalter Kelsey Falter

              Same with Apple. Education pricing is key. Looking at Jobs 1997 address http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHNrqPkefI at 20min… and now Mac enterprise sales are growing — http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-making-a-move-in-the-enterprise-grew-44-percent-in-q3/

               Obviously there are a lot of determinants to this, but I can’t help but think there are other similar trends. Think Dropbox and new teams offering. 

            • FAKE GRIMLOCK

              THAT CHANGING.

          • https://taskera.com Deboprio Ghosh

            Totally agree with you. Not necessarily making our pitch here. but here is one of our approach.

            Since we are addressing the neglected productivity angle on the social sphere. our approach is to make individuals more productive. once they realize the benefits for the same… it should become sticky enough for them to take it to their enterprise. We have tried to build it into our product.

            Also since you have mentioned pricing it will be interesting to see how enterprises react to the word “FREE” 

          • http://www.eqentia.com William Mougayar

            What’s your new company’s name. Sounds interesting. Keep me posted. 

      • FAKE GRIMLOCK

        ANY SALE BASED ON FEELING AND RELATIONSHIP NOT BASED ON FACTS.

        THIS BIGGEST CHANGE FROM OLD WAY OF DO BUSINESS. OLD COMPANIES STILL NOT ADAPT TO IT.

      • http://www.eqentia.com William Mougayar

        Exactly. The push/pull balance is shifting in favor of more pull. Online/content marketing is the future. It ushers the democratization of decision-making with it.

  • Anonymous

    Chris,

    What you mention above is very much correct.

    my take is, in enterprise product the entrepreneur can seldom boot-strap. the enterprise sales process is generally much longer (tedious) than selling a consumer product. So, the ratio of effort (investment) is sales is much higher than in the consumer facing products. The above means that much of the effort is directed towards the sales cycle rather than innovation. 

    having done entreprise product startup and selling it to some of the biggest fortune 500 companies. we still failed because we did’nt have the sales muscle. 


    Deboprio

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree — and this also infuses downstream into every decision we’re now making on product design: Does it fit with the buyers priorities?  This distorts the focus, which should be on the user.

    I also think another reason for being behind is that the dialogue between end users & the provider that could fuel all the tiny improvements that collectively improve the product is broken. User needs seem to trail behind “buyer” concerns you’ve outlined,  and then whatever “ecosystem” the enterprise company is trying to push behind their wedge..We’re currently facing similar considerations in targeting academia/labs which fall midway in behavior, and are trying to bridge the gap between end users (graduate students / post-docs) and those who pay for research.  Anyone who’d actually use this tell us that this is the best way they’ve seen so far to do genomic analysis.

  • Anonymous

    We are starting a company based on this, so I can’t agree more. However, even Salesforce isn’t an example of a product that understands this. The experience for the VP of Sales (the buyer) is great! An example – They have the best user interface for creating reports in a web browser I’ve ever used, by far.

    And yet, most salespeople (the user) hate it. Using Salesforce feels like you’re doing a “data entry” job and you get no value keeping it updated.

    Keep your eye on Selligy. We are working hard to change this… even on Saturday night. :)

  • http://scalable.typepad.com Brian Manning

    Great post, Chris, love this topic.

    In my opinion, enterprise technology is WAY behind consumer technology for one reason: because it can be.

    In a B2B2C transaction, one good salesperson (the “seller”) only has to sell one person (the “buyer”) on the value of the technology. Once the product is sold, the buyer forces their 50,000 employees to use that technology whether they like it or not. A good salesperson with a good deck can do this fairly reliably.

    And a good account manager can typically retain the client for a while; employees usually get used to the product and rarely complain enough for the buyer to cancel the contract and force the seller to improve the product. As a result, an enterprise product can suck and still flourish.

    With a B2C product, this is much, much more difficult. The seller has to sell 50,000 individual “users”, one by one, on the value of the product without the luxury of a face to face meeting or 18 holes on the golf course. The B2C model forces the seller’s product to “sell itself”. As a result, a consumer product can’t suck if it wants to flourish. It has be good. Much better than the enterprise product needs to be.

    This is why I believe enterprise tech is so far behind consumer tech. Because it can be.

    • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

      Nice way to put it. Thanks.

    • http://www.eqentia.com William Mougayar

      “an enterprise product can suck and still flourish” So well said. Been there a few times. 
      Yup- too bad the old enterprise beliefs are that end-users can’t be trusted to make decisions on what they need, and therefore some central authority will know better about their needs. 

      Thank God SaaS and cloud-based products are changing that and giving more power to the end-users themselves. 

  • http://about.me/adriansanders Adrian Sanders

    SuccessFactors is kind of a shit show. I don’t see this as a win for cloud, I see it as SAP scrambling to try and deal with Workday. Workday is to HR / BizX what Salesforce was to CRM. 

    SAP is getting knifed apart one slice at a time. This is an attempt to stop the bleeding… just like ByDesign which has been, by all accounts, an embarassing failure. 

    • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

      eh- isn’t everything kind of a shit show behind the scenes, even great companies?

      • http://about.me/adriansanders Adrian Sanders

        I dunno, you tell me ;)

        In all seriousness, it’s great for the guys at SuccessFactors – they’re gettin’ paid and did a great job in a very tough space.

        But SAP is not the ship I’d want to set sail on…

      • http://www.alearningaday.com Rohan

        YES

  • Anonymous

    It seems like there’s an assumption here (and in the comments) that bad UI in products is a graver problem than it actually is.

    It’s all about helping achieve business goals. Making employees happy is one important goal, but not the only goal.

  • http://www.alearningaday.com Rohan

    Very interesting! Nice observation!

  • http://twitter.com/Peacockmartin Martin Peacock

    … with possibly the exception that as as enterprises get bigger (I deal with predominantly public sector), then a third party gets involnved – the ‘procurement pro’, which outflanks both user AND IT.

    Your corollary is a valid point however – I come from a sector (ironically, in healthcare) where IT have traditionally been excluded from the process. I know of IT departments being told – we’ve spent 3 million quid on a system – its arriving next month and we need a seperate network for it to run.  The issue there is that the users making that decision have no (ok maybe little) cognizance of the needs of ‘other’ users around the enterprise.  Thats the REAL job of IT in the enterprise.  The result then is small pockets of info-islands with little joined-up thinking.  More than a decade ago I was horrified that I could travel the world, stick a piece of plastic into a hole in the wall and pull cash out, but hospitals were unable to refer to a single patient with a single identifier (it still happens).  The reason is a disconnect between the needs of the individual user and the needs of the enterprise.  The answer, if cloud is going to sideline the IT  department has to be a change at C-level with perhaps the CIO becoming more business-process-oriented rather than leaving that responsibility to individual analysts – who aren’t in the frame anymore. 

    But then thats where cloud has an achilles heel when it comes to enterprise – being able to share information across the enterprise. I can’t say for sure but I strongly suspect one of the reasons G! abandoned Google Health was the requirements for importing and exporting information – not on a one-off basis but in real-time.  Thats a challenge that service-oriented platforms can cope with but commodity players can’t.

  • http://www.eqentia.com William Mougayar

    Very true, and you could have even said “budget holders” vs. users. As an enterprise SaaS offering company (Eqentia), I can attest to this observation. But it’s not just IT who is the gatekeeper. Whoever has the budget is the gatekeeper. More and more SaaS products do not require IT anyways, so IT’s involvement is not always prevalent, especially with cloud-based processes where the integration takes place.

  • http://afinanceguy.com afinanceguy

    For companies wanting to try the “end-around” approach to the enterprise buyers I’d offer three pieces of advice.

    1 – Make sure your product has awesome UI/UX AND performs at a high level.  There is some stiff competition out there and looks along won’t get it done.  The looks are needed to help the users fall in love but you ultimately need to do something important significantly better, faster, easier for the user than their set of corporately-sponsored alternatives.

    2 – Either make it completely self-serve (web-based) to adopt at scale or get some very good salespeople in place that can avoid getting sucked into the trap of perpetually believing they are “almost there”.

    3 – If you do “cross the chasm” from early-adopter users to a purchase by the broader organization, your work isn’t done.  You need to work back with your early adopters and find the specific use cases where your product shines for that customer.  Work with the central IT people to ensure a successful deployment based on these use cases and drive rapid adoption.  People have work to do and they’ve been doing it one way for years.  Make it dead simple to adopt your product and actually deliver on all the “soft” (productivity) cost-savings you’ve been promising.  This is the difference between making one sale and cultivating a customer that will buy more in the future and can serve as a valuable reference in the meantime.  Make them look good internally and they’ll actually take your calls when your premium version or portfolio expanding offering is ready.

  • http://maylocnuocnano.net may loc nuoc

    Very helpful post! Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    Chris -

    For enterprise business software sales (SAP, Oracle, etc), IT is rarely the buyer, more often they are gatekeeping and limiting what can get in the door.  To the extent that the cloud bypasses them, that is great.

    Every business of any size has pretty strict rules about which applications can be used with company data.  And even where that is not true, there are often restrictions on reimbursement, limiting the ability (or willingness) of random sales guys to use SFDC instead of the Oracle/SAP/MS product installed for the entire team.

    -XC

    • http://www.cdixon.org chris dixon

      Yes, thanks, “gatekeeper” is a better word. SAP is bought by say the CFO’s office or someone like that and IT has influence. I was (over?)simplifying a bit to make it a shorter, more digestible post.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I didn’t mean to pick nits, and I know you know that, I just worry that people w/o enterprise/sales experience will mis-understand the cycle and buyers.

        -XC

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  • http://twitter.com/SRoyster SRoyster

    Great analogy to healthcare IT, which is ripe for the same type of consumerization to reduce costs.  But so far, I haven’t seen evidence of an “adoptive” base of patients needed to drive/support innovative healthcare IT from the consumer side (re: Google Health Records). 

  • http://www.the-makegood.com Matt Straz

    Chris: Great topic and of special interest as we’re launching a cloud-based enterprise software startup in NYC next month. Here’s why I think most enterprise technology sucks and why there’s not enough innovation:

    - Experience: A lot of entrepreneurs have never worked inside a corporation . Instead, they end up trying to solve B2C problems. That’s why we have a million food and dating apps but so few good payroll apps. My experiences working inside global ad agency WPP for seven years has resulted in two successful startups because of the things I saw and wanted to solve.

    - Design: Solving UI problems for B2B software is often more
    difficult than for consumer apps because there are so many more steps in
    the process and much data to display. It doesn’t mean that it can’t be
    solved, but it requires very strong architecture and design talent.

    - Capital: A lot of VC’s (but not all) are looking to invest in startups focused on building large networks of connected consumers. They want a sexy, consumer-based “home run” even though B2B software can offer similar, if not more reliable, exits.

    - Appeal: Some (but not all) people think that B2B software is boring. Just read the TechCrunch article on SuccessFactors acquisition to see what I mean. Articles like that are an insult to people who working on solving B2B problems with software.

    Best,

    Matt

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  • http://InnerTeub.com/ LizScott

    I’d agree that cloud is vastly superior, but oh my LANDS my customers are afraid of it. I ask about cloud, and the first thing they say back is “Security!”

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